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Just Me

If you have to lie to make your point, you don't have one.

Posted on 2010.08.17 at 20:10
It's not at "Ground Zero." It's not a Mosque.

If it were both of those things, it would be not merely acceptable, but deeply moving, a peaceful religion worshipping at the site of a mass murder committed by madman acting in its name.

But it's not at "Ground Zero" and it's not a Mosque.

If you have to lie to make your point, you don't have one.

Shut. Up.


natertatersmom at 2010-08-18 00:16 (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, the whole spin bullshit by the folks who just want to have something to bullshit about and who'd like to have a country of White Gawd Fearin' White Men with White Wives and White Chil-run is making me want to barf up my salmon.

And it was fucking good salmon!!!!!!
(Anonymous) at 2010-08-18 00:17 (UTC) (Link)

wait what?

what happened?

Jonathan Andrew Sheen
leviathan0999 at 2010-08-18 00:41 (UTC) (Link)

Re: wait what?

The Republicans are making a wedge issue, and the Democrats are running and hiding like gutless scum who can't figure out yet that they've won (In short, business as usual) out of the fact that, on the site of a long-since closed Burlington Coat Factory store located, as The New Yorker put it: two blocks north of the World Trade Center site (from which it will not be visible), in a neighborhood ajumble with restaurants, shops (electronics, porn, you name it), churches, office cubes, and the rest of the New York mishmash, one of the most revered moderate Muslim leaders is building an interfaith cultural center, with Christians and Jews on its board.

This is being referred to by the news media, because it's the phrase ignorant right-wing loudmouths are using, as the "Ground Zero Mosque." The implication is that it will be a sort of celebratory gathering place where terrorists can dance on the graves of the victims of the World Trade Center.

And vast masses of ignorant jerkwads who don't deserve to be Americans are howling with outrage.
empty heart on fire
solipsistnation at 2010-08-18 00:20 (UTC) (Link)

If you don't already read Slacktivist, you should.
Machiavellian Puppet Master
tjs_whatnot at 2010-08-18 01:11 (UTC) (Link)
Abby Normal
ozma_katiebell at 2010-08-18 01:22 (UTC) (Link)
i_m_b00 at 2010-08-18 01:35 (UTC) (Link)
Democrats are running and hiding like gutless scum

but we must pander they may start to like us. For my part I'm making cupcakes for Glenn Beck.

And if we just get rid of Thomas Jefferson like Texas then we wouldn't have to worry about this little freedom of religion thing at all
(Anonymous) at 2010-08-18 20:21 (UTC) (Link)


"And if we just get rid of Thomas Jefferson like Texas then we wouldn't have to worry about this little freedom of religion thing at all"

please tell you are being doing a very poor attempt at sarcasm
i_m_b00 at 2010-08-18 20:37 (UTC) (Link)

Re: WTF?????

well most of it is.

all except for the bit about Texas wanting to down play down Thomas Jefferson in the text books. They say that freedom of religion is not what Jefferson meant any way.


Re: WTF????? - (Anonymous) Expand
Re: WTF????? - (Anonymous) Expand
mythicvictory at 2010-08-18 01:46 (UTC) (Link)
THANK YOU!!! I'm so tired of shouting this!!! It's a community center, NOT a Muslim Supercenter. Just because the Baptists like Goditoriums doesn't mean everyone does. Supercenter...like Target??? And prayer rooms on the top two floors, like a Christian Science Reading Room?? The Horror!! I am cotton picking sick and tired of these people and their idiocy. If we didn't have freedom of Religion, you morons, YOU wouldn't be allowed to spout idiocy!!!!!!! Gurrrr.

There, now I've yelled, and nobody will change their tiny little minds, so nope, don't feel better.

**crawls back into hole and pulls top over head****
louboutin at 2010-08-18 02:39 (UTC) (Link)
I don't think you saw on facebook where I was verbally abused for daring to say that this should be allowed. I was called a liberal un-American nazi bitch who doesn't have the right to say things about issues like this since I haven't gone to the middle east to serve my country.

I'm sorry, what? My staunch support of religious and ethical freedom apparently makes me Un-American now? If that's not what America stands for, maybe I don't want to be American.
isis_uf at 2010-08-18 03:37 (UTC) (Link)
mrsquizzical at 2010-08-18 06:46 (UTC) (Link)
oncelikeshari at 2010-08-18 07:33 (UTC) (Link)
It's not as if the religion really had anything to do with the act of terrorism.

The KKK thought they were doing God's work and do black people protest at the building of churches?

The last time a whole religion was persecuted because of nationwide media propaganda we had a holocaust.

And Muslims died in the twin towers too. Are they lesser people than the Christians (and atheists) who died alongside them?

The last complaints about a mosque here was because the building used to be a synagogue and it was destroying the history of the building. Still some racists wankiness going on but more respect for the religions that lived in that area before them.

How is a place of worship a memorial to terrorism? How many people do awful things in the name of the Bible? Should we stamp out Christianity?

Well I'd actually like them to mind their own business and leave me alone but I have no objection to them existing!
uk_sef at 2010-08-24 15:05 (UTC) (Link)
You might be interested to know that there's a counter-protest at the actual site. My expectation would be that it doesn't get nearly as much media coverage.
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